As charter schools expand rapidly around the country, several states are still charter holdouts. One notable such holdout is Kentucky. Lisa Grover, senior director of state advocacy at the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools joins the podcast to talk about getting charter schools into Kentucky and the other charter-less states. She explains why, despite widespread bipartisan support for charter schools, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle in some states still oppose them. And she discusses why charter school supporters don't just want any old charter school law to pass.